Baka-Tsuki talk:New Project Startup Guidelines

Things needing verification:

• Whether Wiki Supervisors need to be contacted for Teaser Projects AND/OR if they need to send an email to TLG. The original forum post was unclear about this, because Teaser Projects weren't accounted for in that structure.
• There's a bunch of changes coming, since the sidebar is going to go poof. Hence, we need this to be updated to whatever our new policy is.

I don't recall any ground rules laid down for teasers. Teasers allow people to post part of any part of the novel and being a teaser, no one expects them to get completed either.

• And adding on, I'm pretty sure no one contacts Wiki Supervisors nor email TLG for most of our current running projects.

--KuroiHikari (Talk | ) 18:20, 2 February 2014 (CST)

• KuroiHikari, what do you think about zzhk's opinion about Teaser/Pending? I think I like his idea. Basically, any project that is not a Full Project is a Teaser Project. Once a Teaser reaches the requirements to become a Full Project, it gets added to the Pending category (so Oni can review), and if it gets approved, it becomes a full project? Cloudii (talk) 22:19, 4 February 2014 (CST)
• I don't really want the term Teaser to mark the start of a project. One is aimed at zero commitment and the other requires a lot. The issue can be simplified by requiring content to be uploaded on the wiki at the same time a project page is created (ATP's time limit would then be pointless), because I don't see much merit in having a project page without any content. --KuroiHikari (Talk | ) 06:54, 7 February 2014 (CST)
• Well of course. Why would we want an empty project page? I actually thought most people uploaded their teaser nearly at the same time as when they made the project page. Cloudii (talk) 08:34, 7 February 2014 (CST)
• I just wanted to get your opinion on what's the difference between a "Teaser" and a "Pending" Project. Don't these groups kind of overlap? All Teasers are kind of "Pending Projects", right, simply because they're not full projects. I don't think there's anything in the term "Pending Project" that implies a lot of commitment. Pending just means it's not a Full Project yet. Cloudii (talk) 08:34, 7 February 2014 (CST)
• I've argued with someone about Log Horizon's project page before.
• Teasers allow stuff such as a translated page(maybe more than a page) in the middle of a chapter. One can assume that nothing of a teaser will ever be completed. In that sense, teasers are not expected to be full projects. For that reason, I do not want Teaser to be Step 1 of starting a full project. It's meant to be a parallel process.--KuroiHikari (Talk | ) 09:35, 7 February 2014 (CST)
• Well, KH seems to have a pretty firm opinion, but I agree with the other side of the argument. The only real difference between the two is the intent of the translator to continue. From the perspective of the reader, both types have only a limited amount to read. People are fickle, so I like setting categories by results rather than intents. And I think many people don't really understand that difference or don't care to use it (current examples of things that should be "pending" based on translator intent but aren't would be Strike the Blood and Black Bullet). So I favor simplifying the system by having only two categories, full projects and everything else. --Cthaeh (talk) 20:37, 7 February 2014 (CST)
• Isn't this about the guidelines?--KuroiHikari (Talk | ) 22:05, 7 February 2014 (CST)