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-I tested failing just one for each one, and I got the bad ending every time. Failing the first one puts you on a Ryou path, but doing everything else the Kyou way makes you fail Ryou's route, which ironically extends the days. Failing the first three togheter gives you the Ryou ending with ease (unlike Kyou's route, I believe you do have room to succeed either 309 or 310 ... which for Ryou's case would be failing.) Despite the +1's, Kyou requires all of them (while Ryou, reverse on the first three, requires gem and hair.) -Amoirsp
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-I tested failing just one for each one, and I got the bad ending every time. Failing the first one puts you on a Ryou path, so doing everything else correctly in terms of Kyou makes you fail Ryou's ending through extending the days, which then turns you failing Kyou's route. Despite the +1's, Kyou requires all of them (while Ryou, reverse on the first three, requires only gem and hair, probably because you don't literally kiss Kyou, even though it's the event that triggers the most drama.) I was fooled by the gem and the Ryou kiss since the idea is not to mix Kyou and Ryou yet you have to do the Ryou kiss to get the image of Kyou into your head, yet buying the Tanzanite has a negative impact, which selection-wise makes sense but not really Kyou supporting Ryou sense (and you buy it anyway, at like an 8x inflated cost ...). I guess buying the Amethyst causes a certain point in the game to make you think about Kyou, which I don't know of yet. Kind of funny how visual novels have likeness of length of hair be so significant (while the other choices make a bit more sense, and technically liking short hair makes you fail Kyou's route but Ryou's is still possible, while making a mistake on any of the other ones ultimately defeat you.). -Amoirsp
 
: I can still remember the hell Kyou gave me when I was playing her route... I time traveled over 15 times just to finish her route... And by the way... I used a guide to finish her route because she was really frying my brain out! Wahahaha! Anyway, what would happen if you talk to Yuusuke and help him in Kyou's route? I thought you wouldn't be able to finish Kyou if you do that despite achieving her requirements. Or is it just me... -DGreater1
 
: I can still remember the hell Kyou gave me when I was playing her route... I time traveled over 15 times just to finish her route... And by the way... I used a guide to finish her route because she was really frying my brain out! Wahahaha! Anyway, what would happen if you talk to Yuusuke and help him in Kyou's route? I thought you wouldn't be able to finish Kyou if you do that despite achieving her requirements. Or is it just me... -DGreater1
 
:: I believe helping Yuusuke unfortunately shifts the path to his route. Another route probably indirectly forgoes something in the same path, or it just takes you out of the path entirely. To me, anything prior to the 20th for the most part can coexist, but anything 20th and later quickly narrows down the routes. Don't know if the 21st is where singular routes come into play. -Amoirsp
 
:: I believe helping Yuusuke unfortunately shifts the path to his route. Another route probably indirectly forgoes something in the same path, or it just takes you out of the path entirely. To me, anything prior to the 20th for the most part can coexist, but anything 20th and later quickly narrows down the routes. Don't know if the 21st is where singular routes come into play. -Amoirsp

Revision as of 22:14, 10 April 2007

Requirements

To pass the bad ending and head into SEEN3514, the following requirements must be fulfilled (according to the Kepago file):

  • intF[308]: Said you liked long hair on April 28
  • intF[309]: Practiced kissing with Kyou on May 3
  • intF[310]: Bought the Amethyst pendant on May 4
  • intF[312]: Kissed Ryou on May 5
  • intF[313]: Tried to stop Kyou on May 7

If you fail to meet any of these conditions, you will get the bad ending.


-I tested failing just one for each one, and I got the bad ending every time. Failing the first one puts you on a Ryou path, so doing everything else correctly in terms of Kyou makes you fail Ryou's ending through extending the days, which then turns you failing Kyou's route. Despite the +1's, Kyou requires all of them (while Ryou, reverse on the first three, requires only gem and hair, probably because you don't literally kiss Kyou, even though it's the event that triggers the most drama.) I was fooled by the gem and the Ryou kiss since the idea is not to mix Kyou and Ryou yet you have to do the Ryou kiss to get the image of Kyou into your head, yet buying the Tanzanite has a negative impact, which selection-wise makes sense but not really Kyou supporting Ryou sense (and you buy it anyway, at like an 8x inflated cost ...). I guess buying the Amethyst causes a certain point in the game to make you think about Kyou, which I don't know of yet. Kind of funny how visual novels have likeness of length of hair be so significant (while the other choices make a bit more sense, and technically liking short hair makes you fail Kyou's route but Ryou's is still possible, while making a mistake on any of the other ones ultimately defeat you.). -Amoirsp

I can still remember the hell Kyou gave me when I was playing her route... I time traveled over 15 times just to finish her route... And by the way... I used a guide to finish her route because she was really frying my brain out! Wahahaha! Anyway, what would happen if you talk to Yuusuke and help him in Kyou's route? I thought you wouldn't be able to finish Kyou if you do that despite achieving her requirements. Or is it just me... -DGreater1
I believe helping Yuusuke unfortunately shifts the path to his route. Another route probably indirectly forgoes something in the same path, or it just takes you out of the path entirely. To me, anything prior to the 20th for the most part can coexist, but anything 20th and later quickly narrows down the routes. Don't know if the 21st is where singular routes come into play. -Amoirsp