Talk:Hidan no Aria Archived
nice novel, with a monthly manga and a coming anime
WHERE ARE THE TRANSLATORS XD WHY WON'T THEY REPLY! WHY WONT THEY LET ME TRANSLATE >_<!!! --Seoulfighter 08:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Why not just continue translating until they reply?
start translating from ch 3 so you are sure you won't translate the same thing^^
Mr. Seoulfighter, please lend us your godly powers and translate this LN, thank you very much ~Ghost
Fine I'll start picking this up soon since I've received no contact from the other translators, and realized it's never been updated. but right now I have to find a job to help pay for college -.-... my dad wasted my tuition on my stepmother... WASTED 35,000$ on her jewelry and clothes(tears)! --Seoulfighter 02:43, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- That's sad. Sometimes I wonder how parents can be this cruel and selfish... --Darklor 20:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- If this happened to me, I'd give those parents of mine a MASSIVE chewing out. I mean seriously, WTF? Well, good luck to you though Seoulfighter.
you have my sympathy Seoulfighter-san. Your tuition fee must be the top priority because it is the job of the parents to make sure their children graduate from school... Thanks again ~ Ghost
don't worry abouts TL and think about yourself, Real Life has top priority^^(even if this will make us a little sad)
I got contacted by the original translator, and Undying told me that his hard drive got wiped so he won't be working on this project. I guess for now, while I wait for a reply from the places I applied to I'll do some translating.
As for my parents if I tried to chew them out my dad would start a Socratic Seminar about how my line of logic is flawed and his is correct this lasts for 3 HOURS and can go up to 6 if I argue... my mom is poor, and my dad sold my car(My dad had 3 cars one of which he had originally planned on giving to me.) and gave that money to my sister. --Seoulfighter 18:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Your mom is poor? Step-mom or real mom?
- My Real mom who has a job... and my step-mom who is leeching off my father... both are poor. - seoulfighter
- I get the feeling that you don't really like your stepmom...
children suffered because of their irresponsible parents.... Hang-on seoulfighter ~ Ghost
Your dad doesnt like you (anymore)? You haven't made him angry, did you? --Darklor 20:54, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
lol No my dad never said he doesn't like me. He says he loves me like all his children =.=... which is meaningless considering all of us were kicked out to accommodate my stepmother... As for what I did to piss him off. He asked me during college to be a dog that just studies and stay in my room, and listen to every command he gives me =.=. What would YOU do if your parents said those words to you... Then said they only have your best interest in mind... --Seoulfighter 06:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Not all parents' words are correct, they are also human who commit mistakes. Have you talked about how you feel with your father? Maybe you and your father misunderstood each other. Misunderstanding might cause great conflict on the future. ~ Ghost
I have talked to him sat down face to face and tried to sort it out. The only thing that ended up happening is that he said I'm being illogical. He said he couldn't understand why I can't just listen to everything he says and have faith that every decision he's making for me is the best for me =.=. I'll start translating some more to blow off some steam >_<! --Seoulfighter 21:05, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
wow... just finished reading the last chapter of volume one... I must say... chapter 5 is basically as long as the first 4 chapters combined... I'll refrain from giving spoilers but that was really an unexpected twist that I should have seen coming...
its almost a month or more since the last update..... any news? This and <sword art online> made me craving for more LOL ~ghost
Last time I checked, Spadey was approximately 42% done. Expect chapter 5 to be completed at least by the end of this month, if not the next. --Asian InvAsian 05:07, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
If you want, I can give you some spoilers on both this and SAO --Eveonder 05:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
ow thanks for the update! and about the spoiler... thanks but I will wait for the complete chapter ^^ --Ghost
did he used the word dog?REAlly? wow i know who is in the (hell)list--Cognitio
Here i go again and asking for the status LOL --Ghost 10:35 , 15 October 2010 (GMT + 8:00)
Since the manga release at snail pace....I am waiting for the last chapter here... xenocross
If you want an update, I'd suggest you look in here -> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=2527&start=75 --Asian InvAsian 02:31, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
If you want an update, I'd suggest you look in here -> http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=2527&start=75 --Asian InvAsian 02:31, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Summary of previous discussion: Translator is trying to go to school. Has problems. Will gambatte. Our heartfelt approval. --Novium 20:28, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
--I don't know how else to contact translators of this series, so I'll post here. Seeing as the anime adaption is coming out in around a week, I'm guessing there will be a lot more views of this series. As such, I wouldn't mind if the translators spit out a roughly translated version of the next few volumes, I have 2+ hours a day I can spend fixing up English, I can probably revise a chapter a day if need be. --Asteradragon 8:52, 6 March 2011 (EST)
--Speed translating is an insult to the craft. - YoakeNoHikari 21:55, 10 April 2011 (UCT)
Only if it's done horribly. Zero2001 21:01, 16 April 2011 (UCT)
The Anime
The Anime is starting today or tomorrow, does anyone have some hope for it? --Darn2k 12:40, 14 April 2011 (UCT)
Slightly disappointing, but they do have to condense a lot of things in anime, so I'm not going to be too critical - YoakeNoHikari 18:13, 16 April 2011 (UCT)
I can't say I disagree, but so far it doesn't look to bad. Though I have to admit I don't think Aria's voice is quite right, it just feels slightly wrong.--Darn2k 18:28, 16 April 2011 (UCT)
A bit too cutesy for my taste, but that's Kugyuu for you - YoakeNoHikari 19:07, 16 April 2011 (UCT)
But the seiyu voice fits. I did think Aria's mannerisms were a lot similar to Louise from Zero no Tsukaima, but they went even further and added a dash of Nagi from Hayate no Gotoku, Aria's voice could not be in better hands since Kugimiya-san did both. Zero2001 21:07, 16 April 2011 (UCT)
I don't know, it just seemed a bit too "squeeky" or a little too grating to fit with the character, at least that is what I think from reading the first 3 books.--Darn2k 21:42, 16 April 2011 (UCT)
そうだった。She's described as having a Seiyuu like voice, so they can't go wrong there. XD However, I did think her voice would be slightly lower, possibly a more Shana-like tone. Anyways, do you guys like the OP/ED - YoakeNoHikari 22:00, 16 April 2011 (UCT)
My Opinions: OP = 3.5/5 , ED 2/5. Some parts of the OP sounded similar to Asura Cryin's OP (to me at least), loved that one. Fav. part from ep 1 (+ -)"Aaaa, Watashi no magazine!!!". BTW how far do you think the anime will cover the story? Zero2001 04:01, 17 April 2011 (UCT)
Picture Positioning
I'd like to discuss and debate about the picture positioning in the light novel chapter parts. Currently the pictures are being placed in such an order as to mimic the light novel position. (ie: text page ends picture page begins). However I believe that this is problematic to be used here because in reading a light novel one can see the picture page as well as the text page side by side when they open onto that page thus allowing easy comparison between the line and it's corresponding picture. But here, due to the layout being continuous it does not allow the corresponding to occur so smoothly. Instead the reader passes the line that the picture corresponds to and finds the image 10 to 20 lines below that right next to text lines that have either little or absolutely no relation to the picture at all. I acknowledge the argument that this is how the author wished it to be, however I wish to make a point that this was because of the very basic format of all books. No matter what page you open to, unless you fold one side to the back there will always be two pages before you. So I have two ideas to give here:
- Match the pictures' locations to the text lines most suited for them.
- Mark the end of each page with a ---- to insert a line signifying the end of a novel page(like demonstrated below) and making the pictures bigger so they may seem page sized as well.
- 3. Make no changes and let the text and pictures remain unmatched.
Wow that's three. LOL. Personally, I believe the first idea is the best even if it does go against the original ordering. Does anyone have any objections and explanations as to why? Zero2001 22:52, 26 April 2011 (UCT)
I'll go with the first option. Initially, I thought that the picture placement was just some kind or bug or error or something. It didn't really occur to me that that was intentional. ;) Anyway, it will help the reader identify the scene and image better, since the picture is placed beside or near the accompanying text. My ignorance is showing, sorry about that. Anyway, I read (or looked at a page, trying to find a word I know) the source and the images are pretty much around where they are here, the only difference being the format (page-to-page vs continuous). Cross-referenced other series (specifically ZnT) and the editing is the same. So even though it's not spot on, it is how the page is intended w/ the only difference being format. So I guess, 3rd option? s13 16:05, 27 April 2011 (UCT)
I'm not putting the pictures anywhere else. Each author chooses where to put their pictures for a very specific reason. If you think it doesn't correspond well, then minimize a picture of the photo and read it side by side.- YoakeNoHikari 15:34, 27 April 2011 (UCT)
The OP is not incorrect that you can see the pictures side by side when you're reading it, but I prefer to just put it in at the end of the page, because, well...that's just how I see it. Putting it at the beginning would not necessarily be incorrect, but it's nice to read something before you look at the picture for it, which is the author's intent. - YoakeNoHikari 17:09, 27 April 2011 (UCT)
What you are saying is partly true. But only in cases where the picture relating to the text is on the backside of the related text page. When it is on the page on the side it is obviously there so that the picture and the text could be easily referenced. Even here because of the picture's size it can be made to look as though it is right next to the page. That is what I believe the author's original intention is. I'm not wrong am I? Zero2001 17:16, 27 April 2011 (UCT)
Rather I would say that because of the transition from side-by-side to continuous format the resulting positions of the pictures are something the author had not originally wanted, wouldn't you agree? As such shouldn't we choose from point 1 or 2 and not 3 regardless of how it's being done in the other light novels pages? Isn't it only correct that we do this? Zero2001 19:12, 27 April 2011 (UCT)
Finally from what you have been saying, it seems that you want the format to be as follows:
text page1
picture page2
text page3
but instead it's actually like this:
text page1
text page3 picture page2
Note: Point 1 would make it like this:
text page1 picture page2
text page3
whereas Point 2 would show it like this:
text page1
picture page2
text page3
So which format would you prefer. According to this, even the current format is actually against the original author's wishes, isn't it? Zero2001 12:43, 28 April 2011 (UCT)
give it a few days before concluding that people are not answering. some of us are busy people in RL. besides, not everyone watches the pages, or are able to sift through the flood of "recent changes" to find their object of interest. bring it to the forums in that case. begging your pardon, as a translator, I think this is so trivial that I won't even waste time debating or discussing it. discussing stuff like terminologies such as the butei articles is more constructive than a few image placements, and there are very few indeed; begging your pardon again. if you really want to, you can set up a poll in the forums, but that would only make sense if a lot of people are actually concerned with this topic of interest. whatever the case, the supervisor (or translators) makes the final decision. on a side note, given that this is relatively popular project, nobody posting means no one cares about this? and sorry for my typing because I hate caps hahaha :3 --Larethian 13:17, 28 April 2011 (UCT)
No problem. I do understand and it was my intention to wait. Plus the purpose of this topic is to persuade the editors and as stated in my previous post (see hidden text) the comment was just for motivation and I apologized to those who would take it the wrong way, finally I didn't actually say anything wrong, only laughed (evilly yes but only laughed), LOL. Besides, if my intention was not to persuade through discussion and debating the issue I wouldn't have started this in the first place. Trivial, it might be on face, but I still think it is worth discussing because of it's deeper implications. Plus if nobody cares doesn't that mean that any format is applicable? I think that is wrong, which is why I wish to confirm others views on this. Zero2001 13:46, 28 April 2011 (UCT)
