Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:18 am
by theUnbreakableSky
If someone can help me romanise the following sentence:
Spoiler! :
I just need to understand and note the last kanji there.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:16 am
by Tap
ついでに心意技との違いは、
tsu de ni shin'i waza to no chigai wa
"In addition, the difference(s) with incarnation skills would be"
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:27 am
by theUnbreakableSky
Alright. For the record, that was resolved as “Chiyuri-kun, do you understand that explanation of the differences between abilities, special moves, and Incarnation?”
Also Tap, when do you choose to italicise words written in katakana? For V11.4 I had to resort to doing that for much of the explanation bits.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:18 am
by Tap
Hmm? For SAO?
I mostly just did that in v12 to point out the bits Cardinal spoke in English (since Eugeo wouldn't understand those) / sacred arts (system commands).
As a "look-at-this-something-special-happened" thing.
If it's perfectly normal English that everyone would understand (no made-up terms, etc), I don't really see much need for it.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:37 pm
by Breakdown16
Hi guys, I'm alive.
So is it Hermes Code or Hermes Cord? Older updates say Hermes Code; newer ones (i.e. volume 5) say Hermes Cord.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:05 pm
by theUnbreakableSky
I'd say Cord...in context, 'code' is much less likely to be the thing to hold a space station down.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:49 pm
by Breakdown16
I currently have three major issues with my volume 8 translations. Two of them were posted on page one of this thread.
Breakdown16 wrote:柔法 = ? my original suggestions: gentle way/method/technique. Kai Ding's suggestions: Power Redirection, Gentle Conduction. My revised suggestion: gentle redirection.
心傷殻 = ? The most natural translation I came up with was "the shell of the wound in one's heart," but that's so long-winded. Shorter versions like the literal "heart wound shell" sound awkward.
1. For 柔法, I would like to use "gentle redirection." It preserves the idea embedded in the first kanji, which literally means "gentle", and "redirection" is an indication of what 柔法 actually does, though it's not stated in its name. If not, then I would go with the literal "gentle way."
2. As for 心傷殻, Tusjecht aka theUnbreakableSky suggested "shell of trauma" on page one. I think this fits nicely, so I will use this term unless anyone objects.
3. The last one is not related to any term in particular. It's the following line from volume 8, chapter 8, p. 208 of the Japanese raw:
ーそ、そうかな？ていうかソレ余計にマズイ気も？
Literally, it's something like the following: "—Was, was that so? Speaking of which, that unnecessarily bad feeling as well?" However, that doesn't make sense in context. Context:
Spoiler! :
After collapsing earlier in the day during a basketball match, Haruyuki is now fine and is on his way to committee activities, i.e. taking caring of the owl Hou. While walking there, he is assaulted by the phenomenon known as overflow, where one's negative Mind Power (anger, despair, etc.) overflows, and one loses control. During the phenomenon, he hears voices, one of whose is the Disaster's, and experiences intense pain. He shuts his eyes, and someone steadies his body. He hugs that person tightly, who happens to be Utai. After feeling a little better, he opens his eyes and panics when he realizes that he's embracing her. At this point, here's what the raw says:
My current version:
【UI> There is no need to worry, Arita-san. We are probably out of view of the social cameras.】
—Was, was that so? Speaking of which, that unnecessarily bad feeling as well?
For an instant, he had thought that but did not put it into words; Haruyuki tried to make a more logical justification.
I've been so frustrated by this line; I've come back to it three or four times and still have no freaking clue what it's supposed to mean. Any help would be much appreciated.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:29 pm
by theUnbreakableSky
I don't have an official translation on hand, so this was what I could get from the fan translation:
Now to address that reply in particular, it would be "was, was that so/as such? In oter words, was it not clearly even worse?"
What I believe the fan translator is thinking from this line would be that it's Haruyuki wondering if it's even worse to have been embracing Utai out of the Camera's view, akin to a lovers' meeting or tryst of sorts. The phrase 'bad feeling' is clearly absent from this translation.
Of course, it might also be an indirect demonstration of Haruyuki's fidelity to KYH, but that is my own guess.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:16 am
by Tap
Breakdown16 wrote:ーそ、そうかな？ていうかソレ余計にマズイ気も？
"—Re-Really? Wait, isn't that even worse?"
It's mostly there in Tus's interpretation.
"Wouldn't it (not being within the social cameras' range) make it (this act of embracing you) (get an) even worse (connotation)?
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:31 am
by Breakdown16
Even after I've heard both of your explanations, this is one of those very rare cases where I still don't get it...ah well, I'll trust your judgments. Thanks for the counsel.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:41 am
by theUnbreakableSky
Well in all honesty, that line smacks of "author's awareness" - a perspective that couldn't possiblt be known by Haruyuki in-universe.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:43 pm
by Tap
Read up on guilt and shame societies.
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:23 am
by The First
hi i need some help with volume 6 chapter 6.
did i translate this correctly? 带有和风特色的服饰一样=gives the apparel a distinguishing feature like the wind.
and i need some help with translating 更具冲击性的，莫过于覆盖. thx
Edit: also would 请多多关照的说 be 'please take care of me' or should i use the google translate version of 'thank you in advance'?
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:28 am
by zzhk
和风 = Japanese-style
更具冲击性的，莫过于覆盖
Most shocking of all was the level of coverage.
If the context is talking about clothing, then replace "the level of coverage" with "how revealing it was".
请多多关照的说 is just your regular bread-and-butter "yoroshiku ne" (or more polite equivalents).
On first introductions, the meaning would be along the lines of "nice to meet you."
Re: Accel World: Format, Style, Names & Terminology
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:31 pm
by The First
thx zzhk.
i have another problem. Utai says "aside from 钝钝 you can call me whatever you like." but as far as i know that's just saying dull twice. and this is in the context of a name so i'm not really sure how to translate it.
